Meeting Minutes
12.30pm Friday 14th November, 2014 at the Royal
Hotel, Ross-on-Wye
Attendees (and affiliation):
David
Revill – Chairman, Riparian Owner, Steve
Barker - NRW
Dane Broomfield – EA
Lionel Burrows – Ross AC, Salmon & Coarse Peter Gough – NRW
Charles Hopkinson – Riparian Owner, Salmon Seth Johnson-Marshall – WSFOA, WUF
Stephen Marsh-Smith - WUF, Riparian
Owner, Salmon, WSFOA
Tony Norman – LAFA, WUF
Mick
Palfrey – H&DAA, Coarse & Salmon
Alfred Pope – Riparian Owner, Salmon Chris
Rees – NRW
Stuart
Smith - WSA Al Watson - EA
1. Introduction and Apologies
·
Apologies were received from Patrick Darling (WSFOA, Riparian Owner),
Lynn Cobley (Ingestone Fishery,
RWGA) and Michael Clyde (NRW).
2. Minutes of last meeting and matters
arising
·
Accepted with no matters arising.
3.
(a) Cyfoeth Naturiol Cymru/Natural Resources Wales Update
·
A presentation was given outlining
the new NRW internal structure, which had reverted
to catchment-based teams.
·
Personnel for the senior positions down to Operations Manager have
been appointed.
·
All other appointments were originally to be in place by the end of December
2014 although it was thought unlikely that this target
would be achieved.
·
The new structure had brought legacy
CCW & EAW roles together
although FC duties
were still to be
integrated fully. The Welsh Inland Drainage Boards (IDBs) would be coming into
NRW too.
·
It was thought that the dispersal of NRW fisheries staff into
geographically-based teams would be beneficial
as now fisheries would have an influence on all aspects of NRW work, rather
than being a separate group being
called upon occasionally.
·
EA were looking at how NRW worked.
·
It was noted that Natural England did not attend the LFG yet many
issues & initiatives that were headed
by them affected the river.
·
Another recent change in NRW is that all enforcement is now in one
team reporting to one manager. Fisheries
enforcement staff would focus only on fisheries matters. This is already giving greater flexibility across Wales.
·
Responsibility for Brecknock was currently with the SE area although
this could change.
·
NRW team leaders would be responsible for re-establishing contact
links with fishery interests.
·
It was confirmed that NRW were the applicant for the derogation
for FC to use Synthetic Pyrethroid. The briefing notes would be sent to be distributed
with the minutes. ACTION: PG/SJM (done)
(b) Environment Agency Update
·
EA’s restructuring had been geared more towards
delivering an affordable structure. Of the former 3 tiers of management, the ‘regions’ had gone leaving head
office and the ‘areas.’
·
If an area couldn’t fulfil a particular need
(e.g. flooding), other areas could assist.
·
Areas were now based more around catchments than
county boundaries and new area under which
the Wye came was ‘Shropshire, Herefordshire, Worcestershire & Gloucestershire.’
·
This was good news for the Wye as more EA staff would be working in
its area.
·
A list of staff names and roles would be distributed after the
meeting. ACTION:
DB
·
While the two organisations were in the process
of reorganising, it was inevitable that there
would be some focus on their internal affairs. However, it was accepted
there still hadn’t been enough communication
between EA & NRW, although regular contact had been maintained at officer level.
·
A discussion followed in which dissatisfaction with the emergency line
was expressed. This was continued in
Item 9.
4. NRW Decision
on Closure of Hatcheries and Future Delivery
of Mitigation
·
Everyone in the group was invited to a separate
meeting to go through the science and evidence
of NRW’s decision. This meeting would be held before the end of the year.
·
Invitations to the meeting would also be sent to the
WSFOA and WSA. SS would inform PG about
who would be attending from WSA. ACTION: SS.
·
The emphasis of future
discussions would be to look forward not back. A catchment group, consisting of relevant interested and active parties,
will be established to scope and plan future alternative mitigation work. It is hoped that people will be motivated
towards delivery on a catchment-based
approach. This group would be small and made up of representatives from the organisations at the LFG, namely
WUF, WSA, WSFOA.
Mike Timmis would
be contacted about who would represent WSFOA at the catchment group and about
the meeting on hatchery closure. ACTION: PG.
5.
(a) Fisheries Management Update
·
A summary of 2014 electrofishing was given. 152 sites had been fished.
Note that these are interim observations.
·
Duhonw –there have been some concerns over low fish populations in recent years,
however evidence from 8 sites fished
this year shows
a better distribution and reasonable numbers
of salmon.
·
Llynfi – poor results at 3 sites.
·
Trothy – poor at the 3
sites sampled. Low for trout and salmon absent at upper 2 sites
with just 2 parr at the lowest site. It was pointed
out that there had been zero salmon in all previous years.
·
Irfon – good, with the star site being on the Chwefru.
The main stem of the Irfon between Abergwesyn and Llanwrtyd Wells was
also very encouraging.
·
Aran – poor.
·
Monnow – 7 sites were fished from Pontrilas to
Garway. Salmon were found at 6 of them.
·
Lugg and Arrow (Wales) – poor results, with no salmon.
·
Main Wye stem – generally pretty good with the
upper Wye very good. The Tarrenig, Bidno and
Marteg were good, along with all the Irfon tributaries.
·
390 trout had been
through Osbaston (25-30cm) so far in 2014, although
only 16 salmon so far compared to 53 last year.
·
A judicial review
relating to one of the Severn Estuary
putcher fisheries is scheduled for 20th November. A summary of the
outcome will be provided to the group. ACTION: PG.
·
It was reported that marine survival of salmon was at its equal lowest
point ever. It has been announced
that the AST were re-focusing their attention onto marine issues.
·
The Swansea Bay tidal lagoon proposal is currently with the planning
inspectorate. The parent company
has announced its intention to expand operations with further sites in the
Severn Estuary at Cardiff and
Newport, although the Habitats Directive will still be a significant hurdle.
Swansea Bay was the smallest of
their proposed schemes. A summary of the modelling data from the parent company would be provided. ACTION: PG (done)
·
Stocking of fertile brown trout in rivers would cease from 1st January 2015 following final implementation of the Trout &
Grayling Strategy.
·
The new fish movement regulations could be introduced on 1st Jan 2015. Anyone wanting more information should contact PG.
·
Some biological control trials were being carried out with regards
Japanese knotweed.
·
Chris Bainger will be the EA’s fisheries contact
and will be invited to future LFG meetings.
(b) Environment Management
·
The Nutrient Management Plan was continuing with an Action Plan
submitted to Herefordshire Council
in January 2015. A copy of this would be sent to be attached to the minutes. ACTION: DB
·
Dwr Cymru/Welsh Water (DC/WW) had been supportive and had acknowledged
that they had to put forward schemes
to reduce phosphates.
·
There was government funding for schemes to take more clean water out
of the sewage system and into
rivers, lowering P levels.
·
Defra were under no illusions how important NMP success was for the Wye.
If it failed, then the EA
had powers to apply to the Secretary of State for a “Water Protection Zone.”
·
It was confirmed that the EA have collected good evidence with regards this year’s Yazor Brook
pollution and that they would disclose the outcome as soon as they were able. ACTION: DB.
·
12 incidents in the Wye catchment in Wales had been reported since
June 1st, several of which involved use of pesticides.
·
A recent pollution from
Dolyhir Quarry reported by WUF had tested EA/NRW cross border co- operation. Action is on-going.
(c) Wye Navigation Advisory Committee
·
The last meeting had been on the 16th September and had included a couple of
incident reports and an update
on licensing of Herefordshire hire companies. Powys were considering a similar scheme.
·
The next meeting will be on 10th March
2015.
6. Catchment Partnership Update
·
This series of meetings was open
to any stakeholder (including fishing
groups, wildlife orgs, farmers
and stat bodies) who could assist with finding solutions
to issues affecting the rivers. Around 100
people had attended 4 or 5 meetings this year.
·
The process was gaining momentum.
Cargills had been involved and had agreed to set standards for their suppliers. It was hoped that
Tyrells would also become involved too.
·
Replication of the partnership would be desirable in the Usk catchment. Success
of the process would be to deliver as much as possible of what stat bodies couldn’t
afford to.
7. Wye & Usk Foundation Update
·
The WHIP2 project,
which had involved fish passes and advising farmers,
would be coming
to an end in March. A large fish pass at Dayhouse Weir on the Lugg had been completed in October, which
it was agreed would be of
significant benefit to fish populations.
·
In Wales SMS12 (European Fisheries
Fund) was continuing, involving fencing, liming,
and small fish passes. 16.5km
of fencing on the Ithon had been completed and this river
was already looking
much better.
·
All Giant hogweed had been sprayed with focus now was turning towards
Japanese knotweed.
·
Another project in the Trothy and Olway (MOAT) had just finished.
·
A large abstraction project was all but finished. An abstraction regime
had been devised
which was better for salmon migration
and not so punitive on water companies, despite
being told previously that it wasn’t possible.
·
The canoe access on the Glasbury to Hay section had been re-negotiated
restricting launch times from 10am to 4pm (previously 4.30pm).
Powys would be erecting signs at the Bont to this effect. Note! The revised sign at Glasbury
shortly to be erected!
·
The upstream limit of juvenile salmon had increased on both the Lugg
and Arrow, but not yet into Wales.
An EF map of the catchments showed the benefits of improved connectivity was distributed.
·
The litter clearance had been going for 4 years and had 1 year left.
The river from Hereford to Chepstow would be cleared
early next year. The EA would be willing to help and Lynn Bulbeck
should be contacted to arrange this. ACTION: TN
·
It was confirmed that trickle irrigation was still exempt from
licensing but that efforts were being
made to bring it within the system.
8. Wye Salmon Association Update
·
90K juveniles had been stocked
out from Abercynrig to the Sgithwen, Felindre, Maes Brook,
Hay Dulas, Cwmrwn, and Bachway.
·
16 kelts were being held by the hatchery and would be returned to the river.
·
40K fin clipped juveniles would be introduced into SNR ponds from the
23rd
November and
after their release in May, the
operation would cease.
·
The two SNR funds would be closed
too. A contract release had been negotiated from the Crossgates pond and after 18th November, there were no financial
obligations. A few hundred £ would be held
back for making good the Nant Gwyn site.
·
WSA were trying to develop more fly fishing courses with schools but
an OFSTED inspection had caused
latest course to be postponed until next March. Otherwise the courses had been successful.
·
It was suggested
that St Mary’s School
in Lugwardine would be a good venue for the courses.
9. Environmental Crime Update
EA
·
Low reporting of incidents on the Wye has continued.
·
There had been a visit
from Polish fisheries
enforcement officers where
there were 500 full
time officers backed up by 2,000 volunteer bailiffs, all of whom were
armed. In England & Wales there
were 100 officers.
·
In Poland, there were prison
sentences if caught
fishing illegally, all anglers had to pass an exam on
the byelaws (would need simplification if introduced here) and there were photo
ID licences.
·
A voluntary AT bailiffing scheme had been set up 2 years ago in SE
England with the idea of checking licences.
However, this was the most dangerous part of enforcement work.
·
AW was now responsible for four fisheries
enforcement officers but could draw on
officers from other areas if required.
NRW
·
A chief constable had been appointed
specifically for wildlife
crime in Wales with poaching one of the 6 wildlife priorities.
·
A pilot project had just been launched on the Taff with a dedicated
telephone number for all river users to pass on intelligence. Information on wildlife legislation had been simplified for members of the
public. 2 arrests
for salmon poaching
had been made on the Taff in the last couple of weeks.
·
From 1st April
to 20th
October, 1 call
had been received by NRW into illegal fishing on the Welsh Wye. 10
had been received
by the EA in the same period,
although 6 of these were by EA staff.
·
Everyone was reminded that Incidents must still
be reported to the 0800 number. Problems with
the reporting procedure wouldn’t be fixed via the LFG so it was
recommended that those dissatisfied
with the emergency lines should lodge official complaints with both the EA and NRW.
·
Severn Estuary patrols were continuing from the Severn Bridge to
Llantwit Major.
·
8 lave net licences operating
at Blackrock were issued their standard allocation of 14 tags (effectively
a catch quota). Only 5 salmon were caught during 2014.
10. Future Stakeholder Engagement Structure
·
There was nothing to add on this item.
11. Predation
·
It was confirmed
that the licences for the 3 areas
on the Wye had been applied for with one area
already having received its licence.
12. AOB
·
A leaflet was passed around the table encouraging people to call in
pollution incidents to the emergency line. A copy of the leaflet would be emailed
to PG & DB for NRW & EA logo use approval.
ACTION SJM (Done).
13. AOB
·
TBC
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